<Bill> Danny, way back in 1986 you were the first ever singer I saw live in concert, at the Birmingham NEC when Waysted supported Status Quo. I’ve always wondered what you did before getting the position with Pete Way’s band and whether any recordings exist from your “early days”?
There are some earlier bands that I was in. Quite a few, actually. But any recordings that exist from those days would be demos and not something I would hope to see out there for general consumption. What I did do, however, was put several of them at my web site www.dannyvaughn.com and made the downloads free. I only asked folks to contribute anything they could to help keep the site up and running since Chris has always done it for nothing.
<Bill> And of Waysted themselves, I’d rate “Save Your Prayers” as one of my desert island albums. A great time I would imagine touring with Iron Maiden on the famous “World Slavery Tour”, supporting Quo on the UK leg of their comeback “In The Army Now” tour. What are your memories of that period?
Forgive the correction, but we toured with the mighty Maiden on the “Somewhere In Time” tour in 86 and 87. You can’t beat touring with those guys. They were incredibly helpful and supportive. I would have to say that I “learned my trade” working with Maiden. They were very open and helpful and I spent every available opportunity watching them work on stage. On the other hand, the only thing I learned from Quo was how not to be towards other people. They were, well one of them was, so unbelievably nasty, stoned, and paranoid that he would try to do anything to make our show fall apart. This included turning off the power to the monitors, or leaving us with a single over head light during our set. He ordered the road crew to do this stuff but they told him to go to hell, so he did it himself. Maiden always understood that if the opening act went down well, then the audience would be ever more pumped up when they went on. Quo never got that.
<Bill> Argh - “Somewhere In Time” not the “World Slavery Tour”… That’ll teach me to rely on my fading memory rather than doing proper research! Just why did that Waysted album not sell as well as it deserved?
I don’t think I would have any way of knowing the answer to that. Maybe you didn’t buy enough copies??
<Bill> I tried! Well I bought the vinyl twice (long story!) and the first reissue of the CD… Why didn’t that line-up of Waysted record again?
Waysted was always flirting with self-destruction. It’s the lifestyle and methodology of the two fellows from UFO. They had been playing the rock and roll game to the hilt for so long and since they were so young, that they couldn’t find any other way to live. It had some serious backlashes, both personal and in business. It was a relationship that ended with a whimper and not a bang. We all shook hands at an airport, said, “we’ll see you for the next album really soon” and then never did.
<Dave> The various genres of rock are littered with bands which have changed direction, sometimes pretty drastically, in order to sell records. Tyketto are often described as “the band who were born too late” and I would go along with that in as far as 2 years earlier and you guys would have been huge. Personally speaking, I wouldn’t swap Don’t Come Easy for anything that came out and sold by the bucket load back then but did it ever cross your mind to try and produce music that was more with the current flavour, therefore be now spending your days on a beach in the Bahamas?
First, let me say thanks for such high praise. We always felt that we had just a little more to offer as songwriters than a number of our contemporaries (no, I won’t name any). We certainly weren’t above the occasional love song or sex song, but we also felt we had a little more to say. When the trend of popular rock and roll changed in 1991 it was almost instantaneous. Like a light was turned off. Suddenly we, and everyone like us, were seriously persona non grata. You couldn’t get a return phone call from all the same people that swore you were going to be the next Aerosmith just a month before. But, to answer your question, no it never occurred to any of us to try and keep with the changing trends. Maybe it’s stupid pride, but in my case, I don’t think I could have pulled that off with any real conviction anyway. My style of singing just doesn’t work with what was coming out of Seattle at the time. But I absolutely agree with you that we got started about 2 years too late. Such is life.
<Dave> For reasons unknown to me, it took 3 years for the follow up, Strength In Numbers to be released, albeit on a different label, just what did happen there?
We had actually jumped on the writing and recording of “Strength In Numbers” right after the tours for DCE were finished. The writing was already on the wall and yet we were still treated like royalty by Geffen Records. Kevin Elson was found to produce the album. He’s not cheap. And he put us in two really fantastic studios in Rumbo recorders and Fantasy Studios. So a great deal of money was spent by Geffen. In fact, we had gotten as far as sending out test copies to radio stations when they pulled the plug! The only thing we hadn’t finished was the cover art work. It came as a phone call and it was devastating. There was a mourning period where none of us felt like doing anything anymore. It was like a funeral in the band house. It was probably Michael that started rallying us again and it was him that had the idea to approach Geffen records with a previously unheard of idea. I think also in part to John Kalodner’s intervention, Geffen did something purely out of righteousness and the let us have the master recordings at no cost to us. And allowed us to shop them to other labels. For that alone I can site them as one of the most amazing labels ever. We took them to Music For Nations in England and did very well with it there. Unfortunately we also chose CMC in America. At the time it was a fledgling company and it was crap. So nobody ever even knew it was released at home. This began my long-term romance with Europe and the UK and their music fans who are much less fickle and are amazingly supportive.
<Dave> One of my favourite albums of yours was the Flesh & Blood, Blues For Daze release. This was quite a departure for you, very much in the blues ballpark, how would you feel about doing more of the same in the future?
<Bill> cor! Good question Dave - I’d kill to hear Blues For Daze II!
I loved that album. It was the music I had always wanted to do. Despite my having a rather clear voice I have always loved the rougher edged singers and you find that in the blues. It was a no-brainer as the material was already written. I just came in every day and blasted it out until I was sore. And then I blasted some more! I would love to do another recording like that someday.
<Dave> Over the years, you have been involved in so many different projects, one such was Allied Forces. How do you feel about “tribute bands” nowadays?
Allied Forces was not really a project. It was a covers band that I was in long before the Waysted days. The release made under that name was a joke and a rip off, both of the artists involved in making it (none of the musicians involved were aware it was released nor did they give their consent) and, of the 3 songs that I was on, a rip off of the American Indian College Fund, for whom any proceeds were to be donated. Instead it all went into the pocket of the one guitarist who thought he’d get blood out of a stone and use what little name I have to pay his rent. Very sad.
<Dave> Vaughn were another band of yours which, whilst having some success this side of the Atlantic seem to have struggled Stateside. Considering the amount of fans I know from the USA, just how come you never managed to have any success over there? (I’m asking this for Mike Parrish here LOL - a guy both Bill and I know from old rock & metal internet discussion lists)
Because Mike didn’t buy enough CDs!! Seriously, you can get the word out in the right circles when you are in a “smaller” community like Europe and the UK. As I mentioned earlier, they are more supportive and they have longer memories nor do they completely live or die by the trend as Americans do. There are places we could have gone to play where fans would have turned up. Chicago, New Jersey, Dallas, but what do you do in the thousands of miles in between? You can’t support a tour that way. And, to be honest, Tyketto was as well known by word of mouth as some of our contemporaries like Firehouse, Danger Danger, Poison, but we never sold anywhere near the amount of records that they did. We were more of a cult thing.
<Dave> I can remember an extra on the Is That All There Is single was a pretty candid account of your life at the time detailing some pretty mundane jobs. Hopefully things have changed a wee bit and now you are able to focus entirely on the music.
God, I had forgotten about that! Mostly, yes, life is better in my own mind because I have been paying the bills as a working musician. That in and of itself is a tremendous rarity. But I don’t own a car, I teach guitar, I’m involved with a fantastic tribute band in the UK called “The Illegal Eagles” that play theatre tours and do very well and all of this will hopefully allow me to continue to pursue my own things which, while very rewarding, don’t pay. I’ll give you a for instance: “The Traveller” album is my favourite that I’ve ever done. I love it so much and I’m so proud of it. But you know what? Except for some small airplay royalty checks, I’ve never made a penny on that record. In fact, it cost me money to make. That’s the way these things are set up these days. Especially with a company like Frontiers. First you have to sell over 12,000 copies before you start to see any money from sales. And I don’t sell those kind of numbers any more. So my music really is made for the love of it. The only chance I have on making a living off of it is in touring and even that is risky at best.
<Dave> Up until this point, I have seen you with some of the most talented bands the UK had to offer as support, is there any you think should have made it big? Are there any you see out and about today which make you think, “Boy these guys deserve it”
The most obvious name that springs to mind is Furyon, who were formerly known as Pride. Basically, anything Matt Mitchell and Chris Greene are involved in is going to be musically great and appealing to me.
<Dave> One thing, which certainly deserves a mention, is your solo tours, both on your own and as support for Journey. As I understand it, you undertook this with no pay for you appearances and the only income you would have would be from merchandise sales. Were you happy with this arrangement? For my part, my two favourite vocalists, Danny Vaughn and Jeff Scott Soto were on the same stage.
Well, I would have loved for Neal Schon to have reached into his billion dollar pockets and come up with some petrol money for us, but, you can’t complain about getting an opening slot that anyone would have killed to get. We managed to make it work and we did sell a lot of CDs and make a lot of new friends along the way. Working with Jeff is always a pleasure and I hope to do something together with him in the future.
<Dave> Taking this one step further, I have always maintained JSS should be Freddie Mercury’s successor in Queen. Now I read on your myspace you quite fancy the job, I am totally torn. Was this a just a glib post or is there a real possibility of uniting my heroes with the voice?
It is a wishful thinking post. Who wouldn’t want that gig? But to be perfectly honest, I think I would fit in very well in that band. I can adapt my style to suit their music very well. And, as I said, who wouldn’t want the chance to audition for those guys?? So everybody start making phone calls!
<Dave> There has been such a deluge of bands releasing acoustic material of late. One of the first I can recall doing so was you. There has been so much of your history played acoustically and often with show stopping effect; it makes me wonder if you originally wrote them that way. Thinking of, your solo shows and the release Standing Alone, of which I can proudly say, “I saw that gig” how difficult was the transition from full band, to the stripped down versions?
By far the hardest gig I ever did! It’s funny, I can feel comfortable on stage in front of thousands and even tens of thousands of people, but when you’re in small room, eye to eye with 200 to 300 people you can read every face. Every reaction is immediate. And the focus is solely on you. How do you hold those people’s attention for 75 minutes with just your voice and an acoustic guitar? What I found out was how strongly the love of these songs runs with the fans. It was an incredibly rewarding experience because you felt their reactions right there. In Belfast they sang every song so loudly that it was tough to hear myself and I had a PA system! I only made 1,000 copies of the “Standing Alone” CD so I hope to get that reprinted in the future and my real dream is to make another full length acoustic recording.
You are right, by the way, I start out writing almost everything on the acoustic guitar. It’s always been my instrument of choice.
<Dave> Also, I think the first band that I enjoy who first put up an entire album for free download was you. I think every band can learn from this idea, do you think it was a worthwhile exercise? (available from http://www.dannyvaughn.com/seiten/)
I always get asked by fans if there are any rarities floating around. Well, usually, if something is rare and unreleased it’s because the writer didn’t think it was very good. Ever look at the deleted scenes section of a DVD? I can think of maybe twice that the scenes they left out were good ones. Mostly it’s throw-away stuff. I would never have put out a CD of those songs from so many different bands in my past and charged for it. But I did ask people to donate any monies that they could simply to help the gentleman that runs my web site and has done so for 7 years without charging a penny for his hard work. People did get it and they did contribute so I think it was definitely worth doing. I may do more in the future.
<Dave> From The Inside is probably the most complete AOR/hard rock album I have ever heard. I suspect you are particularly proud of that.
If you liked that one, wait until you hear the next one! It’s as AOR as it gets.
<Dave>Then of course we are onto the current Danny Vaughn, resplendent with a fine array of British artists. Traveller made my top 5 last year, in part for it’s “British” sound, though mainly for the voice but have you made a conscious effort to harness all the English/Irish influences?
Not conscious, no. It just comes out that way. It’s the music I grew up with and was influenced by. I never think of it as from one place or another. It’s just from me.
<Dave> Of course it follows, your not finished with this line up yet are you?
I certainly hope not. We are starting to look at new material now from the guitarists and I hope to be writing a new one this year, and perhaps a few shows as well.
<Bill> You mentioned the Illegal Eagles earlier so we must discuss them! I have to admit to being slightly surprised to seeing your name turn up in a “tribute band” (albeit one of some repute!) but then listening to “Take It Easy” on the band’s Myspace page I thought I heard similarities to that in the intro to the magnificent song “Is That All There Is?” off “Soldiers and Sailors”. Were the Eagles a big influence and this something of a labour of love?
Funny enough, I didn’t think of them as a conscious influence. I’ve never tried to emulate their style and yet something of them must have seeped into my writing consciousness because several people have noticed it. Playing in a band like this is really a simple decision. It’s wonderful and challenging music to make. All the players are top-notch talents. So we have worked really hard to make these songs strong on stage. The band cares about it’s audience very much, which is a work ethic I identify with. Every detail of the show is talked about and worked on. But the music is fantastic. It’s all about these songs. It’s never a burden to sing them. I never feel like I wish the night would get over with. I love being in it. And we have a good audience, selling out a lot of 1,000 seat theatre venues, so that means a lot of new people will know who I am as well. It’s a situation that I am very happy to be in.
<Bill> Is it something you envisage doing in downtime from further original solo and group projects?
It’s going to be my main focus right now. I will build my own project schedules around the Illegal Eagles schedule. As I mentioned earlier, making my own music doesn’t make me money and the past few years it has been a real struggle to keep up the recordings and the tours. Now I will be able to worry a lot less about bills and fund the projects that I want to work on of my own. I’m very lucky.

No sooner had we concluded this interview with Danny, some exciting press reports started appearing regarding Tyketto and a few forthcoming concerts. Notably they will be playing Hard Rock 2, Rio, Brazil 28th April along with the likes of White Lion and House Of Lords. Then, more significantly for British audiences, the Firefest at Nottingham Rock City 25th Oct, where they will share the stage with such artists as Jeff Scott Soto, Pink Cream 69 and Tony Hartnell. Incidentally the line-up will be Danny Vaughn, Jimi Kennedy, Michael Clayton Arbeeny and Brooke St James. Definitely an unmissable event for all fans of hard rock.
<Dave> Wow Danny! You certainly kept this under your hat! I had noticed you were chasing a spot at Rocklahoma but seriously thought you were just trying to find a way of thanking your US fans before bowing out. But these two
announcements are huge for Tyketto fans both in Brazil and of course the UK. How did the change of heart come about?
Mostly all of that came about because of the other guys and not from me at all. I was probably the most surprised of anyone when Michael and the lads declared that our appearance at last year’s Firefest would be our last. While I definitely wasn’t into a complete resurrection, I had always thought that we would pop up for a few gigs each year in some key spots whenever there was enough fan interest. But they all felt that it would be a difficult thing to arrange with everyone’s schedules and jobs and families so they felt, let’s go out with a bang.
Now, however, they remembered how much fun it all can be and there is renewed interest from the band members in playing more. So, with a little bit of a bashful grin, they guys declared they wanted to do a few more here and there. Brazil has always been a really good market for us but we have never been able to get there. This chance just jumped up and it was a perfect plan. We would, of course, love to play Rocklahoma and we have been lobbying the promoters to put us on but I am surprised to say that they have been somewhat cold towards the idea. I haven’t a clue why.
We have been encouraging fans to write into the Rocklahoma forums and message boards to let them know that we would be wanted but no results so far.
<Dave> You mentioned there are plans to record the Firefest performance for a DVD…
We’re still working on that one. Lots of people have been asking for a live dvd from us since we are at our best in a live setting, so we’ll see what we can do.
<Dave> The internet is rife with rumours of a potential new Tyketto release, how much truth is there in that?
We have been talking about it and some of the rusty writing wheels have been turning, but I have to stress that it is a long way from a done deal yet. The problem is that with such a beloved album like “Don’t Come Easy” to live up to, we’re not just going to write any old songs and throw them out there. We feel that we’ve got to be able to recreate some of the magic that we once employed as writers together. So we’ll keep quiet and trade some song ideas and if there’s a spark, we’ll go ahead and record some things and see if we can’t make another great album.
<Dave> So, Danny Vaughn, Tyketto, From The Inside, Illegal Eagles do you have time for any more surprises?
I’m pregnant with twins!
<Dave> Haha!!… Danny, thanks for all the pleasure you’ve given us with your music over the years and of course for taking the time to answer our questions. Is there anything else you would like to add for your fans?
Thank you, Dave, Bill and thanks to the fans for keeping the faith and all the internet support.
Keep those emails coming!
All the best,
Danny Vaughn